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	<title>Comments on: New technologies show Panderichthys and Tiktaalik on the way to living on land</title>
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		<title>By: Dave The Happy Singer</title>
		<link>http://nondiscovery.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/panderichthys-and-tiktaalik/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave The Happy Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wikipedia is biased against Christianity and conservative ideals.&quot;

This is because the &lt;em&gt;truth&lt;/em&gt; is biased against Christianity and conservative ideals.

You might like to send creationists here when then pipe up, It&#039;s a tl;dr on the fossil issue: http://www.transitional-fossil.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wikipedia is biased against Christianity and conservative ideals.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is because the <em>truth</em> is biased against Christianity and conservative ideals.</p>
<p>You might like to send creationists here when then pipe up, It&#8217;s a tl;dr on the fossil issue: <a href="http://www.transitional-fossil.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.transitional-fossil.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fafarman</title>
		<link>http://nondiscovery.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/panderichthys-and-tiktaalik/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Fafarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original post said,

--Besides, when the article published in 2006 describing Tiktaalik as an example of a transitional fossil, they plainly stated that they do not know the state of Panderichthys’ limb structure.  From the article:   &quot;Unfortunately, the distal region of the best-known pectoral fin of the elpistostegid Panderichthys is covered by lepidotrichia and the complete distal endoskeleton is unknown&quot;--

Now I am really confused -- what does Panderichthys’ distal limb structure got to do with Tiktaalik&#039;s quality as an example of a transitional fossil?     And how well-preserved are Tiktaalik&#039;s limb structures?    That&#039;s what counts.    

I agree that Casey Luskin did some quote-mining but I think that he is partly right.    Casey Luskin repeatedly implies that Tiktaalik is &quot;poor&quot; in general as  fossil evidence of an evolutionary  transition from fish to tetrapods.     However,  it appears that the Darwinists are not admitting that Tiktaalik is &quot;poor&quot; in general as such fossil evidence  but are only admitting that Tiktaalik is poor as evidence of an evolutionary transition from fishes&#039; radial fin bones to tetrapods&#039; digital bones.   Tiktaalik  still has a lot of tetrapod-like features:   a flat,  crocodile-like head;  a neck that can bend;  a rib cage;   and ear notches -- see   http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html                  That admission by Darwinists is certainly a big deal if they are making it for the first time,   but Luskin should be clear as to exactly what they are admitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original post said,</p>
<p>&#8211;Besides, when the article published in 2006 describing Tiktaalik as an example of a transitional fossil, they plainly stated that they do not know the state of Panderichthys’ limb structure.  From the article:   &#8220;Unfortunately, the distal region of the best-known pectoral fin of the elpistostegid Panderichthys is covered by lepidotrichia and the complete distal endoskeleton is unknown&#8221;&#8211;</p>
<p>Now I am really confused &#8212; what does Panderichthys’ distal limb structure got to do with Tiktaalik&#8217;s quality as an example of a transitional fossil?     And how well-preserved are Tiktaalik&#8217;s limb structures?    That&#8217;s what counts.    </p>
<p>I agree that Casey Luskin did some quote-mining but I think that he is partly right.    Casey Luskin repeatedly implies that Tiktaalik is &#8220;poor&#8221; in general as  fossil evidence of an evolutionary  transition from fish to tetrapods.     However,  it appears that the Darwinists are not admitting that Tiktaalik is &#8220;poor&#8221; in general as such fossil evidence  but are only admitting that Tiktaalik is poor as evidence of an evolutionary transition from fishes&#8217; radial fin bones to tetrapods&#8217; digital bones.   Tiktaalik  still has a lot of tetrapod-like features:   a flat,  crocodile-like head;  a neck that can bend;  a rib cage;   and ear notches &#8212; see   <a href="http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html" rel="nofollow">http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html</a>                  That admission by Darwinists is certainly a big deal if they are making it for the first time,   but Luskin should be clear as to exactly what they are admitting.</p>
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		<title>By: freidenker85</title>
		<link>http://nondiscovery.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/panderichthys-and-tiktaalik/#comment-123</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first part of your post was fascinating. You know, there&#039;s lots of times when talking about creationist hacks is amusing, but when real science shows up, why mention irrelevent crackpot criticism and ideas?

I think this is a fascinating development, and the only development that happened here is humanity knowing about natural history than it did before. This is not a victory for ignorance, it&#039;s a crushing defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first part of your post was fascinating. You know, there&#8217;s lots of times when talking about creationist hacks is amusing, but when real science shows up, why mention irrelevent crackpot criticism and ideas?</p>
<p>I think this is a fascinating development, and the only development that happened here is humanity knowing about natural history than it did before. This is not a victory for ignorance, it&#8217;s a crushing defeat.</p>
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